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    CochCoch
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    I purchased an xten last August. My LGS was really pushing it on me. More like strongly suggesting it. I decided to wait. After researching the firearm and finding plenty of problems associated with it, such as magazines as scarce as hens’ teeth, rounds jamming in undersized magazines for SAAMI spec ammo, poor accuracy as well as good accuracy, etc., I decided to take a chance on the gun. It felt so right in the hand.
    I should have know. Sig hand guns have never worked as well for me as other brands for some reason. Sig tout their pistols’ accuracy, but I just haven’t seen that compared to other brands.
    The biggest issue for me was the magazines. I was able to purchase four new magazines directly from Sig, but thinking that they had corrected the jamming problem was just wishful thinking. I typically use 180gr and 200gr projectiles loaded warm to hot (1250 – 1350 fps) in my glocks, loaded to SAAMI COAL specs (<=1.60″). The x10 mags wouldn’t reliably feed anything over 1.55″ COAL, nor anything with a meplat diameter larger than 7.5mm, which is a waste of a 10mm firearm. Might as well carry a 40s&w.

    Compared to any of my 10mm glocks, the x10 was absolutely miserable in accuracy, barely able to hit a 12″ steel at 30m with any of the many loads that I had tried that would be reliable in that gun, whereas the glock 20 and the two 40’s are supremely accurate at 135m, and pushing to 165m was doable (on 12″ steel), all unsupported. Supported, the xten behaved no better than when unsupported. Some other x10 owners have shown much better accuracy, at least when supported at 100 yrds. So perhaps I purchased an example that had poor consistency.

    The other issue I have with the pistol is that the trigger shoe is just a little narrower than the trigger guard, with no trigger-safety such that most every other striker-fired pistol possesses on the trigger. I could imagine that reholstering the gun directly following a very tense moment, something might catch the edge of the trigger and, well, not a good outcome there. I always kept this problem in mind when reholstering this gun, but it still very much concerned me unlike when reholstering my (slightly modified) glocks and 1911’s, which ALL have better triggers than the x10.

    Another irking tidbit is Sig’s description of the x10 barrel as a ‘bull barrel.’ Couldn’t be further from the truth as it is about 0.08mm larger OD to my 10mm glock barrels, which I would NOT call ‘bull.’ If 0.08mm greater OD makes a bull barrel, then I call bs.

    I do believe that Sig has developed a viable platform with their all in one fire control unit (FCU), but its construction and execution needs further refinement to be able to really compete with other manufacturers’ pistols’ reliability and accuracy/consistency.

    Sure, in the LGS the x10 feels quite comfortable in the hand. But I’ve found that for me, pistols that feel good in the hand don’t necessarily shoot well, especially with rapid follow-up shots. Yes, the x10 does soak-up recoil reasonably well, but then it really can’t reliably load anything with any form of 10mm oomph. At least in my eight-month long experience with it.

    I did absolutely LOVE the x-ray sights. At least after I changed from #6’s to #8’s so that the POI corresponded to the top edge of the sights. Sig is the only manufacturer that I know of that believes the POA/POI should be fully hidden by the front sight. I’d rather not change my well-trained sight picture for Sig. Anyway, I took a Sharpy black marker to the rear sights to make them a bit darker than the front. During dusk and night practice, those pin-point X-Ray sights worked very very nicely for me…. at 30m and closer ranges.

    I purchased this pistol in hopes of putting it into rotation for an EDC and woods sidearm. I made an OWB holster for it that worked well with a structured belt that I always wear and the rig was reasonably easily concealable. However, after putting around 1K rounds of all sorts through it, I could not honestly say that I could trust it to possibly one day save my life and/or others’.

    Needless to say, overall but with a few exceptions, it was a dud of a 10mm pistol and was not a worthy keeper for me. Especially when so many other owners have complained about the same issues, and Sig representatives all give the same lame answer…. “we haven’t had any complaints about the gun.” I call BS.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by CochCoch.
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