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I used to shoot some of my most accurate 175 grain cast bullets over 10.4 grains of Blue Dot out to 130 yards from my S&W1006 with adjustable sights.  Keep in mind though these were all hand weighed loadings and much younger, stronger guy with eyes like an eagle back then.  Easily could bust clay skeet on the 130 yd. berm and clean up larger pieces.

Back in the early 90's (before I even had a Chronograph) I tried AA#7 and AA#9 and just could not get the accuracy I was achieving with my Blue Dot loads, even in other cartridges like 357 Magnum and 44 Magnum.

It seems now though I study, document, load and shoot more for upper velocity with reliability than accuracy.

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Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: Where I'm at part 3; The Fast Burners
« on: September 18, 2017, 09:06:07 PM »
Cool deal, IMR SR 4756 has always intrigued me, as communications with others who said they liked the performance in other cartridges.  I had just never purchased any over the years...the data suggest that it stopped short of the upper end of pressure.
If you do test these I'll be interested to see the results.  If they are as good as they should be, I'll probably kick myself seeing that it may be discontinued by Hodgdon...
 

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General Discussion / Northrop Grumman to Acquire Orbital ATK
« on: September 18, 2017, 08:56:48 PM »
Northrop Grumman to Acquire Orbital ATK, ATK was or is the maker of the Alliant Smokless powder products.  Not sure if Alliant was separated from ATK when they split off all the sporting goods products a while back...

https://www.space.com/38177-northrop-grumman-acquires-orbital-atk.html?utm_content=bufferd87fb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook


Here was the first splitting off of the sporting goods to Vista Outdoors;
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/atk-completes-tax-free-spin-off-of-vista-outdoor-inc-300033100.html

https://www.orbitalatk.com/news-room/releaseatk.asp?prid=70

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Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: Where I'm at part 3; The Fast Burners
« on: September 18, 2017, 06:17:23 PM »
RDub have you ever tested SR 4756, it was said to be a great power in 357 Mag.  I have never had the chance to test these.
They are very close in comparison.  If I recall SR4756 was said to be going away according to Hodgdon.
 
Here is older load data I have for both the SR powders from IMR tested in 5.00" barrels

SR 4756
Rem 155 Gr   SR-4756    8.5   1310   Rem 2 1/2   Rem   34,400    1.250"
Win 180 Gr   SR-4756    7.6   1155   Rem 2 1/2   Rem   34,400    1.250"
Hornady 200 Gr   SR-4756    6.6   1045   Rem 2 1/2   Rem   35,800    1.250"

SR-7625
Rem 155 Gr   SR-7625   7.8   1275   Rem 2 1/2   Rem   34,300    1.250"
Win 180 Gr   SR-7625   7.0   1140   Rem 2 1/2   Rem   35,100    1.250"
Hornady200 Gr   SR-7625   6.2   1040   Rem 2 1/2   Rem   35,700    1.250"

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Sounds good IC, need to get a good look inside to be sure... ::)

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If I see some locally I'll buy a box of them for documenting, but Cabelas and Bass Pro are 90 and 80 miles away respectfully...maybe Sportsman's Warehouse may get some which is closer...

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BE-86 is a little faster burning than Power Pistol (which was BE-84)(both are derived from and adjusted from Bullseye hence the BE designation.  It has loads listed across many cartridges and calibers for pistols.  It is faster than W-296/H-110, and you will use less of it for nearly the same results velocity wise vs. pressures.  It is said to be flash suppressed powder as well as the lot-to-lot consistancy and clean burning too.
Some test have shown it to be pushed slightly higher than published data with good results depending on the cartridge and setup.

I committed to an 8lb jug when I first found one available because of the balance between amount of powder used vs. yield vs. economy.

Now if we could get the 200 grain Gold Dots as components I'll be happy to roll my own @ 1225 FPS!

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Handguns / Re: The New Wildey Company
« on: September 18, 2017, 10:55:40 AM »
Glad you finally got your gun...Big Heavy Hitter!   :D

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What were you wanting to know about the BE-86? 
Seeing the powder charge weight at only 7.2 grains I suspect it to be BE-86 even though it was covered in the yellow primer mixture in your picture.  That also puts the velocity close to the advised 1150 fps.

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Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: Reloading supplies
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:39:33 PM »
You might want to look at Recob's for powder or primers, etc.
http://www.recobstargetshop.com/index.htm

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Most of the 10mm Smith and Wesson were not shot a bunch unless they were law enforcement guns and even then that was short lived.  They remain durable and are very strong, the weak parts are the trigger play spring and the side plate which can be damaged with grip removal / reinstall.   Springs are still available from Wolff for most of the gun.
However parts are no longer stocked or made from S&W...  :(

Mine see less action these days, but I do bring a few out to play from time to time...  ;D

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Factory 10mm ammo / Underwood Clay testing
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:01:27 PM »
Testing 115, 140, 180 JHP, 200 JHP and 220 HC

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Thanks for your report about the Speer ammo, did the powder look like Power Pistol or BE-86, being covered with the primer mixture may make it harder to see the differences...

How much did the bullet weigh?

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Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: NOE 200gr WFN
« on: September 13, 2017, 06:34:15 PM »
About as perfect as you can get if the brass didn't expand or stress too much... :D

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Looking at your bullet Rick the base is square and flat so they are slightly different that the ones I pictured above...
Yes Speer does use a black sealant on the bullets and a clear sealer on the primers.  The yellow powder looks to be the primer mixture that broke up possibly when the did the final tumbling cleaning or when it was pulled...if you pull that primer carefully you may find that the mixture is gone... :o

Thanks for sharing!

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