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Bruno747

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Why not Gary Johnson?
« on: July 19, 2016, 05:36:15 PM »
Honestly, stirring the pot here, cause we all know until the media blackout on third party candidates ends, they will never have a genuine shot.

But seriously, look at his platform, and post what you dislike or love about him. I'll be voting for him. I only hope that my casting a vote for a third party continues to give steam to ending the two party system we are stuck and in reality forced into.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 10:14:08 PM »
I am considering him, if Hillary talks about banning guns I will vote for him.

Trump will never get my vote.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 05:01:16 AM »
Hillary thanks you for your votes.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 07:15:31 AM »
Philosophically the only wasted vote is the one that is not cast for your ideology.

But, this only works if the republic is truly defending our basic rights.  Since the republic is not doing that, and one of our fundamental rights is at risk, I have to agree with Blaster.  However disagreeable I find Trump, however bad I think he will be in every other way, he does currently at least give lip service to my rights to life and the defense thereof. 

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 08:25:50 AM »
1. We became a Democratic Republic with direct vote for senator. The only part of the Republic is the Electoral College which is now very favorable to Democrats.

2. Lip Service is fine for primaries. But in the debates its going to be hard for Trump. He says he wants to declare war with ISIL and that his plan calls for very little boots on the ground. But the reality is that Trump once again shot himself in the foot. The Democrats are going to Swiftboat him big time. A draft dodger is going to send your kid off to die while his kids live in a penthouse apartment safe and sound.

No one wants war.

Trump is doomed, and the Democrats have not even started on him yet.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2016, 09:02:28 AM »
I will say, after all the past and recent things that the "SYSTEM" has to offer, like corrupted politicians, failed justice system, oppressive government greed and overreach to power and control, not to mention a compromised voting process...it becomes a harder choice to make in the effort to break this cycle to still preserve what is left of the American way to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

My vote is going to Trump, he may not be perfect, but because he has put forth the effort, to do what it takes to undo and change things that will make a difference in Making America Great Again!
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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 09:12:53 AM »
1. We became a Democratic Republic with direct vote for senator. The only part of the Republic is the Electoral College which is now very favorable to Democrats.

2. Lip Service is fine for primaries. But in the debates its going to be hard for Trump. He says he wants to declare war with ISIL and that his plan calls for very little boots on the ground. But the reality is that Trump once again shot himself in the foot. The Democrats are going to Swiftboat him big time. A draft dodger is going to send your kid off to die while his kids live in a penthouse apartment safe and sound.

No one wants war.

Trump is doomed, and the Democrats have not even started on him yet.

In the primary Trump singled out the perceived leader at the time, and concentrated his attacks on that one person until he ran them out. 

I thought he would have trouble with Ted Cruz as they appealed some what to the same type of voters as both being outsiders.  Trump took him out easily.

I think that Trump will be Clinton's worst nightmare.  She has nothing to run on but her experience and the results of her experience are easily attacked.

Comey laid out the perfect case against her and then refused to prosecute.  The liberal hacks on MSNBC were even flabbergasted.

The truth is, we demote or fire federal employees but never prosecute them.

I agree with Shadow, the lesser of two evils.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 12:42:08 PM »
America has never been stronger, richer or greater.

Some just want a rich white guy in power.

Debates are going to make Trump look like a fool when facts come out. After all he is the only candidate under investigation. The IRS is investigating him for tax evasion, NYS for fraud with Trump U.

And soon,,,,,,bribing 2 AG's.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 01:20:25 PM »
Wolfie I call Bull$h!t!  You must be on government subsidies!  Because shortly after this POS Obummer and Obummer care took affect my paid for health insurance changed for a mere $333 per month to over $1100 with higher deductibles and higher out of pocket devaluing.  The fuel prices skyrocketed in his early years, which caused everything to price adjust higher to compensate and have only recently started to come down slightly due to lower fuel prices for this election cycle to make himself look good.  His goal was to make people even poorer so they would become even more dependant on the socialism type of communism till his Islamic brotherhood could take a stand.

BTW, the color of his skin has nothing to do with my hatred of the acts this POTUS has done to destroy this country!  A chimpanzee could have done just as well if not a better job...  He continues to pave a path to allow Sharia Law (rubs against all of the established laws of the American people) and flood the country with infiltrators!  All the while trying every end around tactic to remove the secondment rights here that protect everything else for a government he is trying to dictate.  Killary if elected would be an extension of devastation to the last 8 years of stagnated progress and growth because we are being sold out to the "New World Order as the economic collapse looms in the balance of world bank's falter.

At least Trump has enough sense to create, implement, run a business, while putting people in position to work to make it successful!  I place more trust in his abilities to run the country as a business to bring back a sense of pride for the people to be empowered in the process of "Making America Great Again!"

On the short note, while Gary Johnson maybe a good candidate, his platform is not known to enough people to seriously gain a majority of voters.  More of a distraction or even a place that could be a rigged vote... ::)

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 01:45:39 PM »
America has never been stronger, richer or greater.


You must work for the government is all I can say.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2016, 02:15:17 PM »
Shadow I will not counter your health insurance as you are the one that pays it. As for mine I was paying $10,000 a year for a family plan in 2000. It went up to $19,000 in Bush's last year and now its a shade under $22,000 with much better benefits.

As for gas prices this was mentioned by Romney at the 2012 presidential debates. Obama slammed him and Romey and the GOP remained quiet on it for the rest of the cycle. Prices were the highest ever under Bush and collapsed when the REPUBLICAN Great Recession hit. As the economy grew the prices went up until alternatives went online and prices went back down. But I also agree that politics will take it lower, under 2 bucks a gallon.

This country has the strongest military in the world and is the most wealthy. Whats Trumps plan to make it great again when its already great?

The only thing I see is that the racists want a white man in power, and guess what, its their right to do so at the ballot box, but check this out. Obama only won 38% of the white vote, Hillary is over 40% and these are polls that have Trump winning.

Do the math.....

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2016, 02:25:59 PM »
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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2016, 05:46:57 PM »


The only thing I see is that the racists want a white man in power,

Dems want "identity politics" and set old from young, men from women, black from white, rich from poor and on and on.  I'm not saying all politicians don't do the same, but the degree isn't the same.

My choices left the race early on.  Want to claim I'm racist, my first choice in both this and prior primaries happened to be black.  I didn't choose them because they were black, it wasn't because of guilt, it was simply I felt they were good people and wanted smaller, more accountable government that served the people. 

Labeling folks racist time and time again makes the phrase mean less and less as time goes on.  Same with sexist, same with intolerant to sexual orientation.  The goal is to shut off debate they cannot win.  They teach guilt in school now.  For the same reason.

How about you call me anything you like.  I won't give a rip.  Simple reason, I don't care.  Your judgement doesn't control me, doesn't change me, and I believe it comes from a desire to see others at a lower status than yourself.  More likely to look at you with pity than anger.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 06:16:44 PM »
Democrats have been doing identity politics since the birth of this nation. If you are Irish, Scottish, Jew, German, Eastern European or Italian and you vote GOP you spit on your ancestors graves. The nativists back then treated your kin worse than blacks.

Now some in these groups and forums have become the nativist.

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Re: Why not Gary Johnson?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2016, 08:00:00 PM »
My own humble opinion...

The dividing this nation for political purpose plays into the hands of the power brokers.  Period.  End of story.

Sticking labels on others is destructive.  They are equal to you.  Your peers.  Created by the same creator, with the same rights.

I have really bad news for you.  Both parties lie to you.  Neither want what is best for you.  Sure, there are good people that get elected, but a vast majority of those good people become corrupt and serve their power brokers at the expense of those they were to serve.  The worship of money dominates.  They become bought and paid for.  They become slaves.

Wolfie, I don't like to call names, but I feel you are just a political hack.  Both parties are a fraud, not just one.  Both have been so far removed from the founding ideals that they should be hung for treason.  Both have tried to steal the power of the people and try to hide the truth from the masses.  All the proof is hidden in plain sight from those without the desire to discover it.  The more I discover, the more I know, the more disappointed I am, but the more I know who I am and how to stand.

I guess I have to suffer your nickle/dime politics for the next few months, but the truth doesn't change.

Greg