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Re: New Auto Mag Corp
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2016, 07:31:58 PM »
Beemer the guns you own are incredible you may be my new gun hero....... :D

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Re: New Auto Mag Corp
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2016, 10:52:36 PM »
How about a 10mm Magnum for the Auto Mag? If not, how about a  .45 Winchester Magnum in the pistol? Hmmmmmmmm...
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2016, 04:14:48 AM »
How about a 10mm Magnum for the Auto Mag? If not, how about a  .45 Winchester Magnum in the pistol? Hmmmmmmmm...

There already is a 41 Auto Mag cartridge, better than the 10mm and has bullets suited to that velocity also.

The new Auto Mag is supposed to bring out a 45 Auto Mag Cartridge.  This will be the 45 Win Mag with a case length the same as the 44 AMP, about a .10" longer, to fit existing magazines.

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2016, 08:07:28 PM »
I guess the .41 Auto Mag is an excellent cartridge, but he 10mm Magnum brass is already being manufactured in quantity. All we need is another factory loading for the cartridge to make it popular once again. Hey, 200 grain JSP loads at 1600 fps would make any 10-12" barreled Auto Mag stand up and cheer!
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2016, 04:04:11 AM »
I guess the .41 Auto Mag is an excellent cartridge, but he 10mm Magnum brass is already being manufactured in quantity. All we need is another factory loading for the cartridge to make it popular once again. Hey, 200 grain JSP loads at 1600 fps would make any 10-12" barreled Auto Mag stand up and cheer!

All one has to do is run this into a 41 AMP die and you have the brass. 

The barrels on the Auto Mag are interchangeable like the Wildey.  Lock the bolt back, flip a lever, and slide the barrel off and put another caliber on.  Look at my picture posted on page 1, that is a 44 AMP VR barrel on the frame and a 357 AMP barrel above it.

No one is going to load the 10mm Mag again.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/brass-cases/44-Auto-Mag-Brass/index.cfm
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Re: New Auto Mag Corp
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2016, 06:12:55 PM »
Would .45 Auto Mag be any better than .45 Winchester Magnum, if so, why? Is there a larger caliber "Auto Mag" cartridge in the offing, or is it just a recreation of the original?

Perspiring mnds want to know.  ;D
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Re: New Auto Mag Corp
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2016, 07:01:42 PM »
Would .45 Auto Mag be any better than .45 Winchester Magnum, if so, why? Is there a larger caliber "Auto Mag" cartridge in the offing, or is it just a recreation of the original?

Perspiring mnds want to know.  ;D

The 45 AMP is about the same thing as the 45 Win Mag, the only difference is it is a .10" longer. Why they designed the 45 Win Mag case shorter than all the other magnum cases is a mystery to me. The Auto Mag will handle higher pressures that the other pistols designed for the 45 Win Mag though.  Kent Lomont was the Auto Mag Guru back in the 70's early 80's and shot 10's of thousands of rounds through them.  He was a close friend of Lee Jurras of Super Vel who tested many of Lomont's loads and they were routinely around 65,000 psi.  Lee said Kent was routinely blowing primers out of new brass.

They are talking about a 475 AMP which is probably has less case capacity than the 475 Wildey which is based on a 284 Winchester Case cut down.

Everything is up in the air right now so who knows.

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2016, 07:55:17 AM »
Send a question re 10mm in new models...answer below;

TJ,

We want to keep it simple in the beginning and only offer one version in one caliber and one barrel length. Then as we get that in place we would consider adding other variations such as barrel lengths and later still would be other calibers. I just don’t know how much demand would be for a 10mm but it would require a complete redesign and that would be a huge undertaking so I don’t think that would be likely.

With best regards,

Patrick C Henry III


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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2016, 09:28:06 AM »
The Auto Mag has a rotating bolt similar to a M-16.  It is also recoil operated and not gas operated.  There is a small window of cartridges that work in it.  The 357 AMP and the 44 AMP worked well.  Some had success with the 45 Win Mag.

Kent Lomont did a lot of experimenting and to get the smaller calibers to work required a lot of tinkering.  Here is a picture of the cartridges he worked with.

They are the 22, 25, 30, 357, 41, and 44 AMP's.  All are based on a cut down and reamed 308 Winchester case.
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2016, 02:52:11 PM »
I'd go for either the .41 or .44 AMP with a 12 inch barrel. (Power is nothing unless you can place it wher it will perform it's work).
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2016, 04:24:32 PM »
Both good choices.  The 357 AMP is a great cartridge and more fun to shoot than the 44 AMP.  It was also Lee Jurras's favorite chambering in the Auto Mag.  With one standard 357 AMP pistol he took 119 head of game all over the world.  Lee says that is not counting the 100's if not 1000's of Jack Rabbits.

Here is an article on Jurras.


http://www.amtguns.net/articles/lee-jurras/american-handgunner-2007-may-article-on-lee-jurras/

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2016, 04:39:36 PM »
I'd go for either the .41 or .44 AMP with a 12 inch barrel. (Power is nothing unless you can place it wher it will perfrom it's work).

How about this Auto Mag Captain.  A 16" in 44 AMP.  Click on the thumbnails.
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2016, 07:23:10 PM »
I like it, bit that configuration could be a bit unweildy.  :o DAYUM! (I'll bet you could drop a mule deer as if it were a bad habit with THAT pistol)!  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2016, 04:05:40 AM »
Here is a picture of Kent Lomont himself holding that pistol.

Kent was the builder of that particular gun and several others.  The picture was taken in at the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot.  Kent was a fixture at that event until his death  3 or 4 years ago.

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Re: New Auto Mag Corp
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2016, 04:38:26 AM »
Here is the Wkipedia entry on Auto Mag and it is pretty much all correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoMag_(pistol)