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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2017, 12:39:43 AM »
He said Shot Show which carries into 2018  ;)

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2017, 06:59:02 AM »
SavageOne, like you I was deeply bothered by the initial reports about SA and RRA withdrawing opposition to IL SB-1657. Certainly seemed like a sell-out.

But, based on other information I have read after the furor died down, it appears to me that IFMA acted without it's benefactors knowledge or support in removing opposition.  Once it came to the attention of the leadership of these companies, they set the record straight.

Perhaps that was pandering.  IFMA has not produced any documentation indicating that SA or RRA were complicit in the decision to withdraw opposition, and those companies have made their opposition clear.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/05/01/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-oppose-gun-dealer-licensing-act/

http://www.guns.com/2017/05/02/state-level-gun-dealer-licensing-bill-passes-in-illinois-senate/


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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2017, 01:36:25 PM »
The hint on FB today this sure looks like a 10mm I sure hope it's a XDS 10mm that would make me very  ;D

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2017, 01:54:58 PM »
Yeah...that is a 10mm case for sure.

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2017, 02:09:32 PM »
SavageOne, like you I was deeply bothered by the initial reports about SA and RRA withdrawing opposition to IL SB-1657. Certainly seemed like a sell-out.

But, based on other information I have read after the furor died down, it appears to me that IFMA acted without it's benefactors knowledge or support in removing opposition.  Once it came to the attention of the leadership of these companies, they set the record straight.

Perhaps that was pandering.  IFMA has not produced any documentation indicating that SA or RRA were complicit in the decision to withdraw opposition, and those companies have made their opposition clear.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/05/01/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-oppose-gun-dealer-licensing-act/

http://www.guns.com/2017/05/02/state-level-gun-dealer-licensing-bill-passes-in-illinois-senate/


It has been reported that, at least in 2012, the CEO of SA, Dennis Reese, was also on the board of IFMA. During that year a large amount of money was given to Anti 2A pols in IL. I have seen no evidence that Reese ever stepped down from that board and in fact in his video "coming to God" moment said that they had disbanded the IFMA. How could he disband it if he wasn't a controlling part of it? There is also the statement from Reese that the lobbyist was unaware of the scope of the bill and that he shouldn't be supporting it, the lobbyist claims he was doing exactly what he was paid for. For all of these reasons I will not give on red cent to SA as long as it is in the hands of the Reese family.

I get it, SA makes some cool firearms and people want cool things. I am not condemning those who chose to do business with SA, but do not delude yourselves or try to ease your soul. You are doing business with a company that put it's profit over others' 2A rights. If you are going to do it, please don't follow SA's example...be honest about it.

Military Arms Channel post showing tax record for SA

https://www.facebook.com/militaryarms/posts/1535810066430787:0


article citing lobbyist and Reese's statement

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/robert-farago/dennis-reece-springfield-armory-video-didnt-know-gun-dealer-licensing-bill/


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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2017, 02:40:30 PM »
Yup I am going to spend money with SA now if you think I am a nonsupporter of the 2nd Amendment you then are impinging on my freedom and insulting me without knowing me. You can do whatever you want I am ok with your freedom of choice and or ability to believe what see on the net. Peace and Merry Christmas.

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2017, 03:33:47 PM »
Working closely with the board at my company, I can tell you they have very little idea about the day to day, but they certainly can effect a big change in a hurry if they decide to.

That said, I am not super well informed on the issue, and it appears you are.  I was just aware that, unusually, there appeared to be media coverage for both sides of that issue.  if you hadn't seen it I wanted to share.

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2017, 04:38:24 PM »
We will see something tomorrow!  :P    ::)

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2017, 01:00:31 AM »
just a few 2000$ 1911s hahaha

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2017, 02:12:20 AM »
Nothing yet!

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2017, 02:46:24 AM »
Oh yay, another 1911. Yawn!
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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2017, 04:03:59 AM »
I guess no money wasted then. Buy those Tanfoglios!  :P

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2017, 04:57:09 AM »
Whoa! $1,800 for single stack 1911's! Did they do any market research on their competition!!?? Glock and Tanfoglio are probably laughing and sighing with relief this morning.

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Re: Springfield Armory making an announcement Dec 15th!
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2017, 06:31:06 AM »
Not over joyed at the announcement but having said that I have a TRP it is a very nice weapon. I also pay just over dealer pricing so that suggested retail is just that a suggestion.  The gun is purpose built not modified version of standard frame and slide. The engineering and build were using considerations often ignored by other MFG.

So I will definately buy one I am just not sure which model but most likely the 6" version.  ;D