Author Topic: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown  (Read 26762 times)

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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2014, 03:09:41 PM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Magtech Guardian 125gr Gold  JHP (supplied by Intercooler)
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1378 fps
Muzzle Energy: 527 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos  CBC – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5545”/Dia. 0.3565”:125gr Magtech Gold   HP Depth: 0.2200” / HP Dia.: 0.1250” (tapered hex cavity) Mouth: 0.2300”
JHP Actual weight 124.4 grains  (concave base) (roll crimped) cannelure 0.3400”
C.O.A.L.: 1.5635”
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3750” Crimp Diameter 0.3725” Length 1.2820”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: H-110 or 296  19.2 grains







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2014, 09:20:13 AM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Littlestone Excel Elite187gr WFN-GC Lead Bullet Technology (LBT) hard cast (IC)
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1460 fps
Muzzle Energy: 884 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Nickel 
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.7465”/Dia. 0.3585”: LBT 187gr. WFN-GC
Meplat 0.2730”
Actual weight 186.4 grains  Cannelure groove 0.3435” / crimped heavy
C.O.A.L.: 1.6025”
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3755” Crimp Diameter 0.3710”(heavy roll) Case Length 1.2820”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Hodgdon Lil’Gun 14.0 grains







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2014, 10:25:11 AM »
Seems like the powder for big and heavy.

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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2014, 02:54:38 PM »
Yep, Lil'Gun has a good velocity to pressure for them.  ;)
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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2015, 03:46:41 PM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Priv Partizan Ammo PPU 158 gr SJHP
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1600 fps
Muzzle Energy: 897 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: PPU – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6720”/Dia. 0.3555”: 158gr. JSHP
MEPLAT 0.2840” / HP Depth 0.1700” / HP tapered / HP Dia. 0.1525 Cannelure 0.3545”
Actual weight 157.8 grains  ( black sealer) (held like glue)
C.O.A.L.: 1.5690”
Primer: Small pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3760” Crimp Diameter 0.3755” (medium crimp) Length 1.2830”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? AA#9 ?  14.6 grains *
*(looks like the newer AA#9 and the data also that is similar)







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2015, 09:32:31 AM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Georgia Arms 158gr Gold Dot JHP
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1425 fps
Muzzle Energy: 712 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: StarLine – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6400”/Dia. 0.3565”: 158gr. GD JHP
HP Depth 0.1140” / HP Dia.0.1800” tapered / Mouth 0.2710”
Actual weight 158.6 grains  concaved base  cannelure 0.3460”
C.O.A.L.: 1.5690”
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3750” Crimp Diameter 0.3715” crimped medium Length 1.2800”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Lil’Gun 19.4 grains*
*(it’s hard to put this in place because many books list velocity with a 10” Barrel)







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2015, 03:39:41 AM »
No wonder the Georgia Arms felt like firing a Cannon! Given it is also Lil'Gun, it would be best to not shoot a ton of these?

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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2015, 09:14:29 AM »
Yea I found that charge to be higher than Hodgdon's data and checked against Alliant MP-300.
They are showing data for 10" barrels
Hodgdon shows Lil'gun, 18.0 @ 1577 fps 25,800 CUP (lower pressure than the other powder like H-110 and 296 40,700CUP)
Alliant MP-300 18.6 @1690 fps
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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2015, 12:30:32 PM »
I looked over the .44 Magnum sheet and some of those don't have that amount of Lil'Gun  :o

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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2015, 03:56:07 PM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Parabellum Research PBR 110gr JHP (provided by IC)
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1608 fps
Muzzle Energy: 631 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line  – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.4810”/Dia. 0.3570”: 110gr JHP
Actual weight 109.4 grains  concave base / cannelure groove 0.3450”
HP depth  HP 0.0770” / HP dia. 0.1400” (tapered) / mouth 0.2230”
C.O.A.L.: 1.5775”
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3755” Crimp Diameter 0.3655” Length 1.2860”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: H-110 / 296 22.2 grains







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2015, 04:27:08 PM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Parabellum Research PBR 125gr FMJ  (provided by IC)
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1608 fps
Muzzle Energy: 631 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line  – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5300”/Dia. 0.3570”: 125gr FMJ
Actual weight 125.2 grains  (concave base) 
MEPLAT 0.2350”   cannelure groove 0.3450”
C.O.A.L.: 1.5850”
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3755” Crimp Diameter 0.3700” Length 1.2805”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Power Pistol 9.6 grains







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2015, 04:40:57 PM »
Kind of interesting seeing Power Pistol in there.

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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2015, 06:54:44 PM »
It works pretty good, except for the bright flash.  I have used it is some of my loads.  :D
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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #73 on: July 23, 2015, 08:01:47 AM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi Ammo  158 Gr CMJFP #1 (provided by Intercooler 2015)
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1220 fps
Muzzle Energy: 522 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: G.F.L. (Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy)  – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6490”/Dia. 0.3565”: 158gr. CMJTC Actual weight 158.2 grains  crimped light / cannelure groove 0.3560”
MEPLAT 0.2000”  plated (flat base)
C.O.A.L.: 1.5745”
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3750” Crimp Diameter 0.3765” Length 1.2865”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Power Pistol  7.4 grains







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Re: 357 Magnum Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown
« Reply #74 on: July 23, 2015, 08:32:15 AM »
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi Ammo 158 Gr CMJFP #2  (provided by Intercooler 2015)
Ballistics Information: 357 Magnum
Muzzle Velocity: 1220 fps
Muzzle Energy: 522 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: G.F.L. (Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy)  – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6490”/Dia. 0.3565”: 158gr. CMJTC Actual weight 158.0 grains  crimped light / cannelure groove 0.3560”
MEPLAT 0.2045”  plated (flat base)
C.O.A.L.: 1.5720”
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3750” Crimp Diameter 0.3760” Length 1.2865”
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Power Pistol  7.4 grains





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