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This is why we test them. I guessed 1175 if they used the 180gr load on GlockTalk yesterday:http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1502116 They did better than the box flap rating:Limited Pro 4.75" 1156, 1160, 1152, 1153, 1146. Average = 1153.4 FPS/ 517 LBS.Will be interesting to see how they do in the gel!