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I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« on: August 25, 2017, 02:13:25 PM »
....but it was such a pain in the butt to disassemble my 1911 and mount it in the Mechtech, that I decided to give ANOTHER brand carbine a try, this time with a dedicated lower. So I went to Gunbroker and bid on a TNW ASR Kryptek Red in 10mm. It uses Glock magazines so I will get to also fit a few more rounds in. It also disassembles like a survival rifle so I can fit it in small spaces.



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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 05:23:25 PM »
cool! what are you going to put on for sights?

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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 09:53:04 PM »
Probably go with a Red Dot.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2017, 06:49:39 AM »
Very interesting.  I am looking forward to a head to head review.  Since you are thinking red dot ... I'm gonna request 25 yard rested group comparison.

I had to look it up and confirmed that it is a blowback action like the Mechtech.  But, as a Survival rifle, it shows clear advantage.  I really like the multicaliber kits - it seems that you can swap pistol calibers as easily as swapping barrel, boltface and magazines, and this is a clear advantage.  I have can run 45 and 10 from two mechtech tubes and sorta plan to get a 9mm to round out the collection to be prepared to handle available ammo.  This TNW ASR kit would certainly pack easier than a trio of Mechtechs - the shallow side of this advantage is that it is one PCC instead of 3 (I dedicated a lower, but I can assemble all three simultaneously using 1911s in my collection.

Grandog ... I do have an additional request.  Tell me about the trigger ... the Mechtech advantages the amazing triggers in my 1911s which will be difficult to match.

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2017, 08:03:48 AM »
I have several. The triggers have a heavy pull and are rough. Much of the roughness can be smoothed out by stoning them. After I did one of mine, it was acceptable.

The trigger is also very narrow. After firing about 50 rounds, the pad of my finger starts to get numb where the very bottom portion of the trigger contacts the pad. I straightened out the curve in the trigger some which helped. I think if I completely straighten it, it will be even better. Also welding on some material to make it wider would probably help.

I started using shooting gloves to pad my trigger finger and that helps quite a bit.

All of the following tests were done from a bench with a rest and rear bag, shot to 100yds, with 1-4.5X scope on 4.5X. Starline brass loaded w/ Longshot, CCI lg pistol primers, 200gr XTP, 1.230"OAl, 5  round groups. Velocities are averages. The carbine:
7.6gr  5.25MOA  1233fps
7.7gr  1.5MOA  1267fps
7.8gr  4.0MOA  1284ps
7.9gr  6.5MOA  1285fps
8.0gr  12MOA  1310fps

The pistol under the same conditions, with the same components produced:
7.4gr  8.3MOA  1085fps
7.5gr  7.5MOA  1130fps
7.6gr  7.25MOA  1139fps
7.7gr  6.3MOA  1138fps
7.8gr  4.5MOA  1166fps
7.9gr  7.1MOA  1155fps
8.0gr  8.75MOA  1170fps

The pistol using Precision Delta 200gr FMJ bullets, everything else the same. Velocities were not obtained because I didn't input the correct settings on my chronograph.
7.8gr  8.5MOA
7.9gr  7.75MOA
8.0gr  6.25MOA
8.1gr  7.25MOA
8.2gr  7.75MOA
8.3gr  12.75MOA

Lighter weight XTPs produced groups far in excess of the groups obtained above when fired from both the pistol and carbine.
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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2017, 07:26:12 AM »
Very interesting.  I am looking forward to a head to head review.  Since you are thinking red dot ... I'm gonna request 25 yard rested group comparison.

I had to look it up and confirmed that it is a blowback action like the Mechtech.  But, as a Survival rifle, it shows clear advantage.  I really like the multicaliber kits - it seems that you can swap pistol calibers as easily as swapping barrel, boltface and magazines, and this is a clear advantage.  I have can run 45 and 10 from two mechtech tubes and sorta plan to get a 9mm to round out the collection to be prepared to handle available ammo.  This TNW ASR kit would certainly pack easier than a trio of Mechtechs - the shallow side of this advantage is that it is one PCC instead of 3 (I dedicated a lower, but I can assemble all three simultaneously using 1911s in my collection.

Grandog ... I do have an additional request.  Tell me about the trigger ... the Mechtech advantages the amazing triggers in my 1911s which will be difficult to match.
They actually sell multi-caliber kits, where you get like three barrels. Not really sure what they do for magazines though.
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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2017, 07:29:09 AM »
10-7 leo

Are you talking the Mechtech here or the Aero? Because I am not sure which due to your comparing the carbine to the pistol. There is no pistol with the Aero.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2017, 10:07:56 AM »
I have the Aero in 9, .357, .40, 10, and .45 (pistol only).  I bought the multi caliber pistol first, added the 10mm barrel, then the carbine barrels so I can switch back and forth. Sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2017, 08:47:21 AM »
Got it. Just ordered 5 more mags from CDNN. Was surprised how cheap the mags were, $18 a pop. Guess they hold 15, so if I stick one in the pipe, should have 16 shots per.

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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 09:31:16 AM »
I have four Glock mags with the Kriss mag extension on them.  33 rounds each.

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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2017, 08:16:33 PM »
Hey GD
Look into these Arredendo +5 Mag Bases for the Glock 20 Mags
They make the Factory 15s into 20 Round Mags
I run them in my MG20
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/handgun-magazines/magazine-parts/magazine-extension/extended-base-pad-for-glock-prod71363.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=ARREDONDO
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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2017, 03:51:41 PM »
Finally had a week of no doctor appointments, and no rain. So I finally finally got my new TNW to the range. It feels a lot like my Mechtech, but I don't have to swap mags so much. Pic of my first shots walking the PIA of the red dot down to where I wanted it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 08:56:32 AM »
Finally had a week of no doctor appointments, and no rain. So I finally finally got my new TNW to the range. It feels a lot like my Mechtech, but I don't have to swap mags so much. Pic of my first shots walking the PIA of the red dot down to where I wanted it.


Think I have a keeper.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2017, 09:05:34 AM »
Looking good, I may have to look into one of those someday.... 8)
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Re: I Have So Much Fun With My 10mm Mechtech....
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 09:59:27 AM »
I've had my Mec-Tech for almost a year now. Over 1,000rds with no malfunctions! I've shot Underwood, Buffalo Bore, Double Tap, Armscor, S&B, Federal, all functioned fine and shot tight groups. The only thing lacking was a high cap mag. So I bought 2 Korean made 26rd, Glock 21 mags (.45acp) and converted them to 10mm. These mags now hold 30rds and have been 100% reliable! So now I have have a 30rd 10mm carbine.

















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