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RRMan03

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New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« on: May 24, 2013, 03:10:04 PM »
I got my brand new unfired Ruger today and I had no idea just how heavy built a Blackhawk was.Having never owned one I was used to the 1911 and other pistols. This thing weights more than my loaded G20 by 2 pounds. I know now why reloaders get these guns to temp fate with nuclear power loads.Anybody else on hear have one of these.

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 04:06:52 PM »
Yep, got one (buckeye special). Love ruger singleactions.
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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 08:14:20 PM »
Yeah, you gotta love those Ruger Hoglegs
Have had my three Old Models for quite some time
I've got thousands of Rounds (plus) though both my 357 Black and the 44 Super Blackhawks
Don't know why, but I've been babyin' the Super Singel Six
So tell me again how Trump will be worse then the last 8 years !

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 01:20:44 PM »
Envy here. 

I sort of collect convertible SA revolvers.  Have a half dozen 45LC/45ACP convertibles and a couple 357mag/9mm and of course a couple Single Six guys in 22LR/22Mag.  Have been looking for one of those in good shape for a decent price for some time.  Also been hoping Ruger might come out through some distributor with one in 10mm/40S&W.   

But, yes, I go way back with the Ruger Blackhawk.  A 357 was the first center fire hand gun I shot when I was 8 years old (my Dads) and the first center fire hand gun I bought new when I was old enough, also in 357.

For 10mm I have thought of finding a 357/9mm convertible and sending it to a pistolsmith to have it made into a 10mm/40S&W.

For anyone that has one and reloads all you have to do is get another one in 41mag and have fun seeing if you can make a 10mm as hot as a 41 mag.
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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 06:20:38 AM »
I have yet to find one for sale at a reasonable price
When I do I will not hesitate to buy

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2016, 01:41:37 PM »
I have a Talo SBH  with a 3.75" barrel in 44 Magnum. I like it a lot, it's a handful with heavy loads.

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2016, 04:12:26 PM »
I could have bought one for a great price 3 years ago and passed on the deal. Probably one of the more stupid gun purchases I missed on. Pretty certain all the deals I cry about missing are either 10mm or 41 Magnum revolvers.  :o :'(

All I have to say you is: NICE!!

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 11:15:42 PM »
My first hand gun was a Ruger .45ACP/LC Blackhawk 7.5". Still have it 30 some years later. I remember when the 38-40/10mm came out. I had just gotten turned onto 10mm DE's by a friend in the Navy and bought one at home when on leave. Have never seen one in person, though. I got my Dads' Single Six convertible when he passed (I think it is near 50 years old). My BIL had a .357/9mm I wanted. I would like to have a .45 with the shorter barrel along with a Super Blackhawk;)

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2016, 11:16:28 AM »
Congratulations,  I have wanted one of those for as long as I can remember.....no longer than that.
  My first store bought gun was the Ruger Blackhawk in 41mag.  I picked up the 357 and the 45, even the 44 Super Blackhawk.  The 41 just felt right.  Still have it, decades later.
  I remember reading about the 10 mm and how it came to be.  I recall Col. Cooper{RIP} saying that he wanted a 41mag that held more bullets.  In the day this Quotation is from the typical 41mag load was a 200gr. bullet at 1250fps.  If you go to the web page and compare similar cartridges,  compare say Winchester Silver tips. 

Technical Information
Caliber: 41 Remington Magnum
Bullet Weight: 175 Grains
Bullet Style: Silvertip Hollow Point


Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 607 ft. lbs.

Technical Information
Caliber: 10mm Auto
Bullet Weight: 175 Grains
Bullet Style: Silvertip Hollow Point
Case Type: Brass


Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1290 fps
Muzzle Energy: 649 ft. lbs.

The 10 can be more powerful than the 41mag in store bought ammunition, with the strength of that Blackhawk it makes you wonder just what you can do with it.  One of the things that I really like about it is you do not loose any brass.  Any 10mm shooter that has gone shooting in the woods or in bad weather knows that brass is GONE. 

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2016, 01:38:20 PM »
I've heard this a lot, and it is simply not accurate. An apples to apples comparison makes it clear, 10mm Auto is not close to .41M. Name brand to name brand, and handload to handload. Handload 10mm power may approach that of respectable name brand .41M ammo (and may actually exceed some really weak stuff), but that's where it ends. The .41M, as the .357M, has been down-rated by the powers that be. What was originally 40K PSI max is now 36K max. I still load and shoot old-book .41M, with many loads passing the 1200 FPE mark, and some with 265 gr. bullets. These in S&W model 57 and Ruger SBH. Most off-the-shelf 10mm ammo these days rarely make 600 FPE in common pistols.

The advantage of the Ruger 10mm is, as you said, it's a S/A revolver. It's practical value is primarily nostalgic, and you don't lose brass (as easily). The 10mm Auto cartridge, although the potential may be perceived, can't be pushed much further than what we are already doing with the autos. The problem is stretched, and occasionally, separated brass. What doesn't stretch or separate, sticks, requiring more than the ejector rod to get them out (dowel and a hammer). Protruding primers and excessive case length can/will also seize the cylinder action. Essentially, what is too much for an auto, is too much for the revolver. So, in conclusion, it isn't a real advantage for "hotter" 10mm ammo.

The .38-40, on the other hand, is a beast. Easily competing with .44M power (Ruger SBH and some rifles only). DO NOT try this in your Colt SA Army pistol or 1873 Winchester rifle.
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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2016, 06:45:23 PM »
the data I posted is from Winchester, both using the same weight and design of bullet.  Facts are facts, and no, my 10mm rounds are no where near my 41mag loads.  Winchester has been around a while and this is their data not mine.

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Re: New Ruger 38-40 10mm
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2016, 07:46:02 AM »

... One of the things that I really like about it is you do not loose any brass.  Any 10mm shooter that has gone shooting in the woods or in bad weather knows that brass is GONE.

If you are just target shooting in one spot, you can put down a large (blue) tarp that will catch all the brass. That is what I do.


I've heard this a lot, and it is simply not accurate. An apples to apples comparison makes it clear, 10mm Auto is not close to .41M. Name brand to name brand, and handload to handload. Handload 10mm power may approach that of respectable name brand .41M ammo (and may actually exceed some really weak stuff), but that's where it ends. The .41M, as the .357M, has been down-rated by the powers that be. What was originally 40K PSI max is now 36K max. I still load and shoot old-book .41M, with many loads passing the 1200 FPE mark, and some with 265 gr. bullets. These in S&W model 57 and Ruger SBH. Most off-the-shelf 10mm ammo these days rarely make 600 FPE in common pistols.



It depends on the barrel length. 41 Magnum starts to surpass the 10mm (G20) at around 3" barrel length. I had a 2" 41 magnum, and switched to the G20 because it had roughly the same capabilities, but increased capacity.  A S&W Model 357 Night Guard (which is a 41 mag, not a 357 mag) is only 1/2" shorter than the G20, but is over 1/2" higher and 1/2" wider than the G20. I have some leftover 41 mag 210gr XTP bullets that I have resized to .401 and am now using in 10mm. I am now at 1100fps with no signs of high pressure. I think I can get 1200 fps safely.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handguns/handgun_reviews_sw_model_357_night_guard_41_magnum_012411/

https://us.glock.com/products/model/g20

http://10mm-firearms.com/reloading-10mm-ammo/41-magnum-bullets-in-a-10mm/



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